24
Oct
08

On Violence

Political violence has been around for quite some time, but I’m curious as to what the final triggers are. One could argue that anyone can be driven to violence, but at what point does violence get triggered and why? Fear is one such motivation, but also greed, revenge, and prejudices also result in violence. So how do we actually get to the violence trigger? I’ll leave these as open questions for discussion.

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11 Responses to “On Violence”


  1. October 24, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    Trigger one: Frustration with the perceived idiocy or immorality of the views of the person you are confronted with.
    Trigger two: Frustration with yourself for being unable to articulate what exactly is idiotic or immoral about the posiitions you are reacting too.
    Trigger three: Desire to reflexively relieve your frustrations and remove feelings of inadequacy by punching the person who reveals your own shortcomings in the mouth.

    At least that is my guess.

  2. October 24, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    I think it might have something to do with mixing one or more of the motivations you mention with a sense of self-righteousness, a sense of justification. Just my hunch.

  3. October 24, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    “I think it might have something to do with mixing one or more of the motivations you mention with a sense of self-righteousness, a sense of justification. Just my hunch.”

    Very much so. In order to feel like you are fully warranted to go around pummeling people for being wrong, you’ve got to feel pretty damn right. Whether you actually are or not doesn’t actually matter.

  4. 4 jaredcormier
    October 24, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    Just tossing this out there, what about feeling threatened?

  5. 5 Stacy S.
    October 24, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    “…what about feeling threatened?”
    I would say that’s the same as fear.

    Hormones … definitely hormone imbalance. No doubt.

  6. October 24, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    “Hormones … definitely hormone imbalance. No doubt.”

    I’ve heard of the quaint little bursts of fear/anger that provoke this kind of irrational activity referred to jovially as an “amygdala hijack”. The speaker who used the term was talking about E.Q. (emotional intelligence quotient; basically your ability to express your feelings in a reasonable and healthy manner). Entertaining, to say the least. (Though, it must be said that I don’t believe the amygdala influences us via hormones. But, adrenaline probably has a role in the actual aggressive, fight-or-flight response that coincides it. So…a complex picture on all fronts).

  7. 7 jaredcormier
    October 24, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    True, but the amygdala IS involved in learned fear responses which can result in adrenaline release, as well as many other events; what I’m saying here is that miscues of fear from perceived threats by non-threatening stimuli can trigger anger by this mechanism. So, learned “threats” which actually pose no immediate danger can induce fear.

  8. 8 Stacy S.
    October 25, 2008 at 9:26 am

    Well let me just put this in female language … (pick a month – any month)

    The 1st through the 20th – give or take a day or two – “Hubby” leaves his socks on the floor. No problem, everyone is imperfect.

    The 21st … “Hubby” leaves his socks on the floor and gets yelled at.

    Were the socks the trigger?

  9. 9 jaredcormier
    October 25, 2008 at 10:14 am

    Yes, but was he beaten with a baseball bat to within an inch of his life; yelling isn’t very violent. PMS doesn’t count…

  10. 10 Stacy S.
    October 25, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    Hah! There are sooooo many varying degrees of PMS. Yelling is degree 1. Increased testosterone levels have an affect as well. Don’t you think?

  11. 11 jaredcormier
    October 25, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    I’m actually more of the opinion that natural aggression plays more of a role than any hormonal difference. These aggression levels may correlate with hormone levels, but they are correlations and do not establish causation, because aggression causes increase in testosterone, and testosterone increases aggression…


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