Quack, quack.. Hear the duck?
Update: I was right about this:
“Pardon the laughter, but the components originating in avian flu were previously found in American variants of swine flu. It’s likely these genes came from a mixing of various strains of swine flu (some containing parts of avian flu) and maybe human flu. It’s not that impossible or unlikely, just unique.”
Line by line breakdown with my response to this page:
Unless you live on Planet Zod (somewhere the other side of the galaxy), you will know there is growing international concern, amounting almost to panic, that we are facing a deadly worldwide pandemic of swine flu. The actual figures, as of today Apr. 27th, are: 1,614 cases and 103 deaths (not all confirmed as swine flu).
Figures are a little off, total case counts are as follows:
All deaths have been in Mexico with no administration of antiviral medications. This specific strain is sensitive to two of our four anti-influenza antivirals. No deaths have occurred in the other countries as yet.
Update: one death in the U.S.-a 23 (or 22) month old child from Mexico died in Texas.
After years of trying to will into existence a pandemic of avian flu, the media loonies have finally got what they wanted: something to scream and wring their hands about, trying to induce fear and despair in the population they seek to mind-control.
Considering the week before, 151 confirmed cases of influenza were detected with two deaths (about a 1.3% morbidity), and this week, we have 64 confirmed cases with no deaths in the U.S. I would agree that the media is blowing this way out of proportion for the moment. This, however, does not mean we should ignore a possible pandemic (which it is).
There is nothing the media likes more than fear and panic. They try to create it, every day, in the news and on television. Living here in the USA, I laugh sometimes. If there is nothing to be scared of that day, they drag up past miseries, instead of saying “It’s been a great day folks. Go home and sleep peacefully”.
Which is where education about the “dangerous” virus comes in. Influenza isn’t hard to kill, wash your hands, if you cough, cough into a towel and throw it away. Even better, N95s for everyone! Basic precautions will prevent the virus from spreading.
I’m putting a fold here, I know it gets boring
In the hurricane season, if nothing is blowing in, they run stories of past hurricanes, over and over and over, just in case the population should relax and start to behave normally.
It bores me to tears, being from Louisiana, and knowing first hand how a hurricane ACTUALLY is. Don’t think the news agencies are actually out to educate you. Don’t think the “alternative doctor” is out to educate you either. Don’t take my word for it either. Read the research published in peer-reviewed journals and look at the data.
That said, the media in the USA is almost totally censored by control from the owners. The population is told there are dangers and threats on every hand. They are NOT told that most of this hysteria is full-on lies and counterfeit stories. They are CERTAINLY not told that there are plenty of solutions to the dangers posed.
Again, no argument, basic medical treatments work fine… I guess this is where “Dr. Quack” is going to try and sell you something…
What lies hidden, covered up by your leaders, can certainly cause trouble and even kill you.
US vaccine manufacturers bio-terrorists?
OH TEH EBIL KOMPANEES AN GOBERMINT WAN TO KIL US ALL!!1!eleventy!1
Now, nobody here is being told that the present “outbreak” of ‘flu was deliberately engineered by a US pharmaceutical company. Baxter International Inc. were caught on the brink of starting an avian flu “pandemic,” by distributing flu vaccines contaminated with H5N1 avian flu virus to 18 countries last December.
Except, these vaccines are tested for live virus prior to being issued. Also, it wasn’t a vaccine that was contaminated, it was laboratory grade virus for research. It should have been H3N2, but was contaminated with H5N1.
It was only by providence that the batch was first tested on ferrets in the Czech Republic, before being shipped out for injection into humans. The ferrets all died and the shocking discovery was made.
Wow, vaccines were going to be injected into humans at the end of normal influenza season because? Not to mention most variants of H5N1 aren’t exactly going to normally infect a person…
H5N1 is a strain of avian flu virus classed as a bio-terrorism agent, as it has a kill ratio of 60%. If they had gone into full human inoculation procedures—and well they might—they would have perpetrated the biggest crime against humanity ever to take place. The scale would make Hiroshima, genocide and the Holocaust seem like schoolboy pranks.
These were not vaccines for humans, they were experimental research viruses, the H3N2 was live, so was the H5N1. Vaccines for influenza are typically trivalent attenuated virus.
By the way, it is impossible and almost inconceivable, that the vaccines could have been “accidentally” contaminated.
It wasn’t a vaccine
You will hear that as an excuse, I’m sure, and the government will back them—because the government also has dirty fingers (I’m referring to the previous administration, which spent most of its term in office trying to create the myth of a flu pandemic and putting in place severe population control methods to coerce the masses into doing what they are told).
TEH GOBERMINTS WAHT TO KUNTROL US!!~!
The fact is, that if Baxter has such dirty cross-contamination techniques, they are not fit to produce pig food, never mind vaccines for inoculation into human beings. Yet they are now snooping around the back door and asking for samples of the virus—so they can make up more vaccine and get more profits.
Because killing people, which means they will never need their products, means PROFITS! Cool how you make that straw man stand up like that only to knock it down so easily. I’d have so much trouble, straw men tend to fall over on their own… Kind of like the underpants gnomes.
Step 1: infect people with deadly virus
Step 2: destroy your market
Step 3: ????
Step 4: PROFIT!!!
Why should Baxter be trusted, when they have already been proven to be at the very least criminally negligent, and at worst a prime suspect in attempting to carry off one of the most heinous crimes in the history of mankind?
Yea, go figure, sending a medium risk virus contaminated with high risk virus needing the exact same precautions in place to prevent the spread of it to a company for research…
The company has already put the safety of the entire human race at risk, and now, just a few weeks later, we’re expected to invest our confidence in them and take their shots with a smile and keep quiet?
The MEDIA is out to cause panic, though… Remember, you’re telling a blatant falsehood here. Pot, meet kettle, kettle, this is pot.
As Mike Adams, The Health Ranger, has commented, “If you mail an envelope full of anthrax to your Senator, you get arrested as a terrorist. So why is Baxter — which mailed samples of a far more deadly viral strain to labs around the world — getting away with saying, essentially, ‘Oops?’”
A Bigger Conspiracy
Because it was a contamination of a medium risk virus with a high risk virus… That’s why. You’re not mailing anthrax in an envelope to be opened by Joe Public, you’re mailing a virus to a researcher that knows the package contains viral particles, but they happen to be contaminated with more dangerous viral particles…
Along with total silence and connivance from the US government about Baxter’s criminal intent (or negligence), the controlled US press has been totally unwilling to talk about this story or investigate it. All they bleat about is the coming pandemic and the fear it generates.
Yep, I’m a pawn of Baxter, they need to pay me now. I accept all major credit cards.
Yet in other countries, this shocking revelation is being freely talked about.
Viral contamination of a viral sample…OH HOW DANGEROUS!
Not only that, but there is the whisper of a mass extermination agenda. People are asking: is this a blatant attempt to reduce the world’s population by over 50%?
Too bad H5N1 infection rates aren’t that high… Morbidity is pretty steep in confirmed deaths, keep in mind, though, only the influenza deaths were genotyped…
It would suit the elite—but, of course, not the billions of dead people, if such a scenario could be truly engineered.
Nice, it would suit the elite? How elite? Who are “the elite?” Also, BILLIONS of dead people? Come on, seriously, you’re speculating on things that are not really likely.
And while I am talking about engineered, let me tell you something TOTALLY SHOCKING that puts the whole thing into the right perspective…
The scores of people who have so far died in Mexico were killed by a strange virus that has bits of genetic material from swine flu, avian flu and human flu, consisting of an intercontinental mix of viruses from North America, Europe and Asia. This is odd, to say the least.
*Note: to be fair, it’s five scores plus two suspected and only one score and six confirmed. (*note: 1 score=20)
Awesome, so it should have this magical 60% morbidity, right? Wrong. Influenza amalgamates pretty easily, especially in pigs. Co-infection allows the viral particles to mix fairly easily. In any event, we’re dealing with a mortality rate of (at most) 7% in this specific strain of the virus. There are TONS of genotypes for influenza in each category. Not all of them have the same mortality rates. Let’s stick to this specific strain, not pull facts and figures from other strains which does not apply to this one.
Scientists said the virus combines genetic material from pigs, birds and humans in a way researchers have not seen before. The official view states that despite mutations which are considered normal, viruses ‘rarely’ pass from one species of animal to another. So how could this swine flu manage to traverse the boundaries of humans, birds and pigs all by itself?
Actually, humans and pigs have lots of viruses can cross-infect. This means you get co-infection and reassortments and voila, human transmission.
“We are very, very concerned,” World Health Organization spokesman Thomas Abraham said. “We have what appears to be a novel virus and it has spread from human to human,” he said. Flu DNA does mix but such an unusual combination does raise the likelihood that it is an artificial virus—perhaps derived from the Baxter vaccine, released only weeks before.
Pardon the laughter, but the components originating in avian flu were previously found in American variants of swine flu. It’s likely these genes came from a mixing of various strains of swine flu (some containing parts of avian flu) and maybe human flu. It’s not that impossible or unlikely, just unique.
I didn’t believe the stories of deliberately manufactured AIDS disease: but I have no choice, as a scientist, except to grasp the fact that in this outbreak could have been caused when somebody deliberately released a contrived artificial virus into the population.
Me: Do you have evidence for this?
Quack: Can you disprove it?
Me: No, I can’t disprove it.
Quack: See, I’m right!
Me: *blink* But you’re a scientist?
I mean, maybe the Baxter story is just a ruse, a device, to deflect attention from the fact that the power elite are working on this program and have just ordered the release of this “mass extermination” agent. Not that I am saying that Baxter might be innocent; goofs of such magnitude are criminal, not merely a slip up.
Yea, huge magnitude (see above)
But this story already smacks of dirty, dark hidden layers upon layers, and I doubt very much that the Baxter plot is any more than the tip of a very nasty iceberg.
Enough verbosity, let’s get to the claims…
Meanwhile, if there is a high-up conspiracy, President Obama doesn’t seem to be in on it. On Apr. 16th Obama was received at Mexico’s anthropology museum in Mexico City by Felipe Solis, a distinguished archeologist, who died the following day from symptoms similar to flu.
The president seems to have been closer to contact with the mutant virus than almost anyone else in the USA!
In fact the really paranoid among us might even wonder if this was an elaborate attempt to assassinate him. It remains a rather strange “coincidence” that it all started on ground zero, right where he was visiting.
Yea, because Mexico City doesn’t have tons of pigs, high population density, etc. Not to mention using a virus that responds to antivirals. Amazing assassination attempt, using a treatable virus and all…
So, here’s how to decode the official dissembling and the media hysteria
Item #1. Somebody, somewhere wants this pandemic. It’s been pushed for years and the fact that the dangerous virus is now an engineered mix of strains does not alter this fact.
Ok, so Orthomyxoviridae doesn’t reassort. Someone is stupid enough to use treatable virus, but smart enough to release it in a population where humans and farm animals are in close contact. On top of this, they had to take a strain of swine flu that already exists and mix it with another strain of swine flu that already exists (could have happened naturally quite easily) and combine it with human flu (also could have happened naturally quite easily) but forget to make it resistant to Relenza and Tamiflu. Right…
Item #2. The response will be totally unscientific, not based on sound medical reasoning but based on a manipulative and evil political agenda.
Item #3. Somebody wants the dollars. That means worthless vaccines will be forced on the population as a response. It may even come to the point where the population is forced, at gunpoint, to accept a dangerous and quite ineffective vaccine, because big shots like Rumsfeld have shares in the vaccine company.
more “teh gobermint iz aftr uz!”
Item #4. The Bush administration prepared the ground for an avian flu “pandemic,”
calling it “inevitable”, although in order to even jump from human to human, the virus would have to have mutated (or “evolved”) in a very specific way—a totally unpredictable event. So how could they know about it in advance?
Because it happens all the time.
Well, they could if they CAUSED it to happen. One might draw the conclusion that the government was working on that very mutation, and were going to release it soon. That’s how they knew…
Right, but see, that assumes the government is competent.
Item #5. This is a tool for further restrictions of freedom. Regulations
have been set in place so that, should the government declare a pandemic,
vaccinations could become mandatory; if refused, the person would be
“quarantined,” which, of course, means imprisoned (you have wonder why so MANY new prisons are being rapidly built in the US, when there is no corresponding increase in crime statistics).
Because our prisons are full? Yes, quarantines are a GOOD idea, it prevents highly transmissible diseases from spreading. That’s why you do it.
Committed anti-establishment figures seem to have a way of dying suddenly and conveniently in US prisons. It could be a pre-planned way to get rid of political troublemakers. Deaths will be blamed on the fact they didn’t get the vaccine in time.
Slippery slope, much? I forgot, you’re a scientist…
Anyone who stands in the way of profits for Big Pharma is obviously, by definition, politically undesirable.
Item #6. The mandatory vaccine, in this Hell scenario, would become a further source of the disease, not a protection against it. If the depopulation agenda has been set in motion, instead of the pandemic being controlled, it will be fanned. The vaccine will infect healthy people. Figures will rise rapidly. Deaths will soon be out of control.
“If this happens, then this will happen, and this might happen because of that, etc.” Again, slippery slope..
At the first sign of forced vaccinations, I’m over the border. Care to join me?
No, not really
The 1918 Flu Pandemic
What about it?
You’ll start hearing officials comparing this pandemic scenario with the great flu disaster of 1918- 1922. There is a persistent myth about this pandemic and its deadly effects, which 99.99% of doctors and experts get wrong, even when they are sincere.
But YOU get it right?
The fact that most of the Mexican dead were aged between 25 and 45 rather than being elderly or very young is seen as a particularly worrying sign. The first victims of the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 were also healthy young adults.
And? They were the ones likely to have gotten it from the pigs…
[MYTH There were no real healthy young people in 1918. By the turn of the century, 50% of recruits for the British Army were being turned down as unfit for service, because of severe nutritional deficiencies. The picture was the same in the USA and elsewhere. After 4 years of wartime restrictions, malnutrition only got worse, not better. In other words young people were greatly a risk].
I’ve uncovered the real truth of why so many people died of flu at that time and who so few have died in subsequent outbreaks. It doesn’t make sense, until you know what I have uncovered. Then one of the biggest medical mysteries of all time becomes understandable. It also explains why the flu struck young and fit adults first.
It’s a very neat but of detective work. I’ve told the whole story in a recording I did years ago for alternative-doctor-radio. You can listen to it, using this link: http://www.alternative-doctor-radio.com You can see the box around the center of the page, with a headline about 1918 flu.
You will also hear some good advice on how to combat flu, nutritionally and homeopathically (my first choice).
…again, no thanks, I’ll stick with washing my hands frequently, practicing more intensive hygienic behaviors, and, if I do get sick, I’ll stick with tamiflu or relenza (things with medicine in them) for this one