In any event, let’s have some fisking fun:
There’s a story going round that atheists are intelligent, well educated and “brighter” than anyone else in the world.
Well, there is a correlation between educational level and religiosity, but that doesn’t mean being an atheist makes you smarter or better educated, it could just be that the smarter and better educated you are, the more likely you are to see religion for what it is…
It’s gotten to the point that even atheists are starting to believe that stereotype. However, there is ample proof to show that that’s an unfair and inaccurate stereotype. Example One below:
Is there data?
Z’s First Comment
“the universe exploded from a point that must have been infinitesimally small and dense.”
Definitely an oversimplification; but you’re also illustrating a broad generalization with a single case, based upon this type of evidence, I could say Christians can’t argue because of your apparent inability to understand basic logic. I would never do such a thing since Christians CAN be very intelligent and think critically.
Z’s Second Comment
“Prior to the singularity, nothing existed, not space, time, matter, or energy – nothing.”
Well, of course “prior” is irrelevant since there was no “prior”–which is why asking “what caused the big bang” is such a nonsensical question. How many wings do fairies have?
I’m still waiting Z for you to tell me why those comments aren’t contradictory.
Or, you can just say, “I was wrong. Everything came from nothing and:
Slippery slope, here you come!
. Since nothing, literally nothing natural or material existed, and
You’re doing well so far.
. Since I rule out anything supernatural, or outside of nature, and
Ohh, damn, see, you missed it right there; we have no reason to suppose these things existed then or now. We do, however, have reason to suppose the universe did expand from an infinitesimal singularity with infinite mass, but I doubt you have read about this.
. Since everything that begins to exist does so because of a cause
Yep, and you missed it again right there. Have you heard of radioactive decay? What causes a specific alpha or beta particle to leave a specific atom at a specific point in time? It is unstable, but why then? And why that specific arrangement of energy?
The reason you want causality is because we humans love to have it. It seems like then we have the answer, unfortunately, not everything needs a direct cause, hence you have issues.
. That means that I believe that nothing caused everything to begin to exist.”
Not exactly, the universe came into existence due to unknown cosmological causes. We know precisely how the universe expanded from this singularity, but because time and space didn’t exactly exist until the universe began to expand, it did not “cause” it to happen.
Or you can even go by the ultimate proof that intelligent, knowledgeable atheists is a false and misleading stereotype and quote Richard Dawkins himself.
Now you’re stepping into my domain, aren’t you?
“Nothing EVOLVED into everything.”
See, what you fail to realize is that evolution is about replication, if you have a single self-replicating chemical compound, (it can be ANY replicating chemical compound) it will be subject to evolution. This means, simply put, that a very simple self-replicating chemical can result in immense diversity. You arguments are both arguments from ignorance. Good luck with learning to argue more effectively.